A Nurse may soon be your Doctor
 "28 states are considering
expanding the authority of nurse | medicinesux | 04/13/10 |
| hahah what a great idea! Maybe
airline hostesses can take an | turde | 04/14/10 |
| Wait... you're comparing "Airline
hostesses" (whatever that | Hyperfocus | 04/24/10 |
| wow.... my bad! I thought I was at
JDunderground, too funny! | Hyperfocus | 04/24/10 |
| In my state, nurse practitioners
can practice completely ind | onehell | 05/06/10 |
 You had me stumped there for a
moment but I came up with an | medicinesux | 05/07/10 |
| But im pretty sure they will insist
on being called 'doctor' | pharmstudent | 06/20/10 |
| In NY, a NP would not be able to
sign an affirmation like a | baconfat | 06/15/10 |
| sorry everybody, I thought I was
venting on JD underground, | baconfat | 06/15/10 |
| wow. After reading some of these
threads, I see you guys ar | baconfat | 06/15/10 |
medicinesux (Apr 13 - 3:31 pm)
"28 states are considering expanding the authority of nurse practitioners"
"And if they hold a doctorate, they want to be called "Doctor."
"Medicare, which sets the pace for payments by private insurance, pays nurse practitioners 85 percent of what it pays doctors"
"The health care overhaul law gave nurse midwives, a type of advanced practice nurse, a Medicare raise to 100 percent of what obstetrician-gynecologists make — and that may be just the beginning."
"The American Nurses Association hopes the 100 percent Medicare parity for nurse midwives will be extended to other nurses with advanced degrees."
"I don't think patients are ever confused. People are not stupid," said Linda Roemer, a nurse practitioner in Sedona, Ariz., who uses "Dr. Roemer" as part of her e-mail address.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100413/ap_on_he_me/us_med_dr_nurse
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"28 states are considering expanding the authority of nurse practitioners"
"And if they hold a doctorate, they want to be called "Doctor."
"Medicare, which sets the pace for payments by private insurance, pays nurse practitioners 85 percent of what it pays doctors"
"The health care overhaul law gave nurse midwives, a type of advanced practice nurse, a Medicare raise to 100 percent of what obstetrician-gynecologists make — and that may be just the beginning."
"The American Nurses Association hopes the 100 percent Medicare parity for nurse midwives will be extended to other nurses with advanced degrees."
"I don't think patients are ever confused. People are not stupid," said Linda Roemer, a nurse practitioner in Sedona, Ariz., who uses "Dr. Roemer" as part of her e-mail address.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100413/ap_on_he_me/us_med_dr_nurse
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turde (Apr 14 - 8:05 am)
hahah what a great idea! Maybe airline hostesses can take an online course and become pilots too.
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hahah what a great idea! Maybe airline hostesses can take an online course and become pilots too.
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Hyperfocus (Apr 24 - 4:34 am)
Wait... you're comparing "Airline hostesses" (whatever that means) to nurses? Just like the legal profession, there are many different levels of expertise. S
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Wait... you're comparing "Airline hostesses" (whatever that means) to nurses? Just like the legal profession, there are many different levels of expertise. S
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onehell (May 6 - 10:53 pm)
In my state, nurse practitioners can practice completely independently of doctors, write any prescription they want, and diagnose and treat all kinds of patients. They can absolutely do anything and everything that a family practice physician can do.
As a result, I have been wondering what, if anything, docs can do that NPs can't. Major surgery is one example I'm sure but most doctors aren't surgeons anyway. So for a doctor who isn't a surgeon, is there anything he can do that a nurse practitioner can't?
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In my state, nurse practitioners can practice completely independently of doctors, write any prescription they want, and diagnose and treat all kinds of patients. They can absolutely do anything and everything that a family practice physician can do.
As a result, I have been wondering what, if anything, docs can do that NPs can't. Major surgery is one example I'm sure but most doctors aren't surgeons anyway. So for a doctor who isn't a surgeon, is there anything he can do that a nurse practitioner can't?
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medicinesux (May 7 - 5:56 pm)
You had me stumped there for a moment but I came up with an answer. An NP can't call themself a "physician"
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You had me stumped there for a moment but I came up with an answer. An NP can't call themself a "physician"
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pharmstudent (Jun 20 - 1:35 am)
But im pretty sure they will insist on being called 'doctor' as opposed to 'nurse so and so'
the new nurses are called physician assistants (PA). In my home city, there were many clinics with one or 2 physicians and the rest were all PA's. And I'm sure what will happen is these PA's will be able to be called doctors too one day. The health industry is changing before my eyes at an alarming pace.
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But im pretty sure they will insist on being called 'doctor' as opposed to 'nurse so and so'
the new nurses are called physician assistants (PA). In my home city, there were many clinics with one or 2 physicians and the rest were all PA's. And I'm sure what will happen is these PA's will be able to be called doctors too one day. The health industry is changing before my eyes at an alarming pace.
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baconfat (Jun 15 - 12:48 pm)
In NY, a NP would not be able to sign an affirmation like a physician, but would need to sign a notarized affidavit.
The real story here is that physician trade groups are pushing back vigorously against a dilution of their degree that they spent many years and buckets of cash to get. Their basic view is that if NP want to practice medicine,they should have gone to one of the few accredited medical schools out there and spent the money required to get an MD or a DO.
Unfortunately for us lawyers, our ABA (which likes to think of itself as the "Keeper of the Profession") blesses any and all attempt to dilute and cheapen our degrees by (1) sanctioning outsourcing of work to non-lawyers and (2) constantly accrediting new diploma mills/cash machines which pump out tens of thousands of useless JD's every year increasing competition for the few scraps of work that remain.
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In NY, a NP would not be able to sign an affirmation like a physician, but would need to sign a notarized affidavit.
The real story here is that physician trade groups are pushing back vigorously against a dilution of their degree that they spent many years and buckets of cash to get. Their basic view is that if NP want to practice medicine,they should have gone to one of the few accredited medical schools out there and spent the money required to get an MD or a DO.
Unfortunately for us lawyers, our ABA (which likes to think of itself as the "Keeper of the Profession") blesses any and all attempt to dilute and cheapen our degrees by (1) sanctioning outsourcing of work to non-lawyers and (2) constantly accrediting new diploma mills/cash machines which pump out tens of thousands of useless JD's every year increasing competition for the few scraps of work that remain.
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baconfat (Jun 15 - 12:50 pm)
sorry everybody, I thought I was venting on JD underground, not MD underground. Sorry to see your livelihood is under assault as well, and hope your associations do the right thing.
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sorry everybody, I thought I was venting on JD underground, not MD underground. Sorry to see your livelihood is under assault as well, and hope your associations do the right thing.
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baconfat (Jun 15 - 1:13 pm)
wow. After reading some of these threads, I see you guys are just as fuc*ed as us, if not more. Keep up the good fight
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Post a message in this threadwow. After reading some of these threads, I see you guys are just as fuc*ed as us, if not more. Keep up the good fight
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